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As debate over the issue flares in several states, a major adoption institute says in a new report that it strongly supports the rights of gays and lesbians to adopt, and urges that remaining obstacles be removed.
"Laws and policies that preclude adoption by gay or lesbian parents disadvantage the tens of thousands of children mired in the foster care system who need permanent, loving homes," the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute says in the report to be issued Friday.
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posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 12:50 PM
These sanctimonious hypocrites put politics before the welfare of children. Notice that the vast majority of heteros who adopt only want white babies or increasingly chinese children; whereas those adopted by gay couples are often children of color, including older kids who are hard to place, the throw away kids that all the 'good christians' cant be bothered with. Not only is the religious right homophobic, they're a bunch of closet racists too! And thanx wayne for deleting what was undoubtedly another lobotomous diatribe from our resident 'ex-gay' psychostalker kurt. B. Queer
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 1:27 PM
B. Queer...just look at the funding for this report per the article Wayne linked, and you can see pretty easily how it will be discredited.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 1:51 PM
Please, if it were solely a contest between whether a child should be raised by two loving gay people or a couple of tongue-talking religious kooks, there is simply no comparison. You may think I'm kidding, but I've known many children of fundamentalists, and many are INCREDIBLY messed up. You can doubt me, but it's completely true.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 2:14 PM
Ummm...James Dobson's son Ryan is adopted.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 2:58 PM
Poor Ryan! Imagine being lucky enough to be adopted and then finding mout your father is James Dobson!!
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 3:02 PM
Dobson loves his father...the younger one is an evangelist as well.
He's been very active in reaching out to youth.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 3:33 PM
Yeah, Ryan reaches out to youth alright. He wrote a book called "Be Intolerant". What a great message. I see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. How disgusting.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 3:35 PM
What was "Be intolerant" about, Chris?
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 3:52 PM
I know exactly what it was about. But the point was that I would never put my name to a book with a title like "Be Intolerant".
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:05 PM
Chris,
Was Ryan Dobson telling Christians to hate other people in that book?
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:15 PM
I did not read the book, but researched it about six months ago when it came to my attention. So I will only make comments about the title, which I reiterate is disgraceful. Did you read Wayne's book?
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:21 PM
Chris,
I haven't. I've read a lot of my GLBT friends reviews of it. Some say its good that the subjects Mr. Besen broached were being talked about. Others made it sound like a strange, uneven read. Still others intimated that it was sad, and that the book focused only on the negative.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:31 PM
I just read Wayne's book two weeks ago. I read it in one day. I couldn't believe how good it was. I thought it was terrific. You should read it.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:38 PM
Tell us Kurt, are you seriously telling us that Be Intolerant says nothing about opposing the so-called homosexual agenda? "Smug and ignorant" are words some reviewers use to describe it. He may not out and out tell Christians to hate, but he does instruct them how to condescend and feel morally superior.
Perchance does he talk about his divorce and tolerance for that? These Pharisees have no business telling us how to live our lives!
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 4:40 PM
Hmmm...so the fact that Ryan Dobson divorced his wife means that nothing he says is true?
Or is it that (as I find so often, and I too feel this way) we don't have a problem with Christians, but we all have a problem with hypocrite Christians?
Chris, if I get the chance to read it I will.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 5:22 PM
RYAN DOBSON divorced his wife!??!? I am totally appalled.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 5:29 PM
In 2001 they say, yes, Ryan divorced his wife. So did Donnie Swaggart about that time divorce Debbie. I hope none of Ryan's friends read his book!
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 5:53 PM
Who would write a book called "Be Intolerant"? There is a pretty thorough explanation of the Dobson clan of hate in an issue of Harper's Bizzare about a year ago and the interview with Ryan tell you what this book is all about, well, intolerance. Intolerance of anyone who is not white, christian, heterosexual. Behind the scenes, these "christians" are vicious, gossiping, spiteful people. Their idea of compassion is to mock and degrade not "reaching out to youth" . That is a crock of shit.
On the issue of gays and lesbians adopting, of course the report is a correct assessment of our fitness and willingness for parenthood. The fact that we will love and care for society's "throwaways" speaks volumes of the compassion we have that fundamentalist christians are sadly lacking.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/24/2006 8:38 PM
BC, you hit the nail on the head. When I was a naive 15-year old in the Pentecostal church, little did I know what kind of stunning, mind numbing hypocrisy I would witness over the next 20 years. They are GREAT when it comes to preaching about all of the values that they don't uphold. Meanwhile, it's usually the atheist on the street who treats everyone with respect. Go figure. It took me a couple of decades to figure it out, but I finally learned that Christianity is about living a religious worldview. It has nothing to do with treating people with love or dignity, despite the admonitions of the one they claim to worship, Jesus. We gays know more about the spirit of Christ than these people will ever know!
posted by Anonymous, at
3/25/2006 12:36 PM
I am NOT Kurt.
However, I wonder if gay parents are purely being altruistic when adopting. It could simply be that they want kids. I don't know that they're really thinking about helping society's throwaways.
Anyway, I am a bit skeptical of this study myself, considering who financed it. I'm all for gay rights and gay adoption, but I think it is important to use common sense when considering the facts here. We certainly can't call this study objective or scientific.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/25/2006 1:38 PM
"Gay parents" don't uniformly act as one, of course. I think gays who adopt a child with developmental issues are definitely trying to help the less fortunate. There are others who only want a "perfect" child.
Just a thought: If a study was issued that said that children raised by Jewish people were just as healthy as children raised by non-Jews, and you found out that the study was commissioned by a Jewish group, would you doubt the results of the study?
posted by Anonymous, at
3/25/2006 2:12 PM
Just a mute point, but sexual orientation really is irrelevant when considering fitness/unfitness for parenthood. Heterosexuality does not in itself guarantee fitness for parenthood and either does homosexuality. It is factually incorrect and absurd to suggest that a person is unfit simply because of his or her sexual orientation. We are all human beings and if we desire to follow our instinct or desire to be a parent, then all should have that right. If one abuses that right through evidence of child abuse or neglect, then that parent, hetero or homo, should lose that right to be a parent. Similarly, if a human being, homosexual of heterosexual, chooses not to become a parent, then that's their choice.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/25/2006 3:57 PM
In the current issue of the Advocate is an article about Rosie O'Donnell's R Family Cruises for gays with children. In the article there is a quote which says that after the first cruise, the crew remarkded that 'they had never been on a cruise with so many well-behaved children'. 'Gay parents are different because they work really hard to become a parent'.
posted by Anonymous, at
3/27/2006 11:45 AM
Regs we need more people like you in this country (and the world). B. Queer
posted by Anonymous, at
3/27/2006 4:48 PM
The bottom line is, is that being is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD.
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