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Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Brian Mahieu of Fulton, Missouri wrote a fantastic letter published in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. It is well worth reading for anyone who believes the absurd, disproved and highly discredited notion that gays can go straight. Here is an excerpt:
"I am a survivor of nineteen years in the 'transformational ministry'movement (not unlike the programs promoted by Focus on the Family's Love Won Out tour) . My experiences within the fundamentalist religious/political milieu that promotes the idea that homosexuals are sick and need to be healed was horrific. The movement is packaged in a very slick mainstream way, but the procedures vary widely and can include bizarre spiritual rituals that could be characterized as christian voo doo and evangelical abuse."
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"Although I entered into a heterosexual marriage I was not straight or “cured” I was just a gay man married to a woman. I spent 15 years in that marriage trying to make it work, living a well-intentioned lie. I ending up emotionally devastated, filled with even more self loathing, guilt and suicidal ideation as there was no way be straight (heterosexual). The alternative, I was told, was eternal damnation."

1. This man made a personal choice to get married. You don't get into a heterosexual marriage to "cure" homosexuality. I defy anyone to find a link on Exodus, FOTF, etc. who recommends this, let alone advises anyone to do it.

2. If this man is indeed speaking the truth, it's a sad thing that this happened. He needs to name names, today, so people would be aware of whichever counselors would be so flagrantly giving bad advice.

3. That said, the fact that this man is doing the APA name-dropping (when as has been discussed here before, very liberal and very pro-gay former APA presidents are quite concerned with the direction that organization is taking is bothersome to me.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/01/2006 6:16 PM  

As usual, Kurt misses the point. He is so indoctrinated in the right's wing neo-con language that he cannot see what this person is saying: sexual orientation does not change.

As I read this blog, it amazes me that Kurt is always the first one to post something whenever Wayne writes something critical of the President, the ex-gay movement, or just about anything in particular. He obviously has his own set of issues to deal with - paranoia with the so-called "gay agenda", a backlash against the circus known as the ex-gay movement, and the rising level of dissent in the country against the President.

Like most on the Radical Right, Kurt does not look at the issues put forth - he berates the writer of this letter for marrying (while downright lying about the fact that the "ex-gay" camps encourage the act) and then he goes on and on into this mythological bashing of those of us on the left.

Kurt, I am a proud member of the still unidentified left-wing conspiracy. If standing up for the Constitution, allowing people to live their lives the way they see fit, and demanding the separation of Church and state (because the last time we mixed the two, people got burned at the stake) makes me a member of such an organization (of which you fear), then I am damn proud to be there.

In the meantime, live your own life the way you see fit and leave those of us alone who live ours the way we see fit. That, my dear, is what being an American is all about.

And Kurt, check your sources. Just because something is on the internet does not make it true.
posted by Blogger Matthew, at 3/01/2006 6:51 PM  

Kurt is such a buffoon....he uses Warren Throckmorton as a source.

hahahahaha

This is the same Throckmorton who has a woman in his video that gives excorcisms.

hahhahahhahaha

It's is all one pathetic joke told by even more pathetic people who need to suck some cock. If I did not get laid, I'd be acting like these folls too.

Jack G.
San Antonio
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/01/2006 7:17 PM  

Jack G.

Why worry about Throckmorton? He wasn't the focus of the linked article...these former wheels with the APA were (with a link to their amazon.com book page, unless that, too, is an unreliable source for you).
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/01/2006 7:25 PM  

Kurt seriously needs a dick up his ass. Have you ever seen someone so repressed in your life? A total freak show.

He spends all his time on this web-site. In effect - he is a super-gay man who just doesn't get any. Get a life dude. Get some sodomy.

Bart in Seattle
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/01/2006 8:01 PM  

Kurt,


Homosexuality is a sexual orientation. A small percentage of all mammals are born with a homosexual sexual orientation. It is determined in the hypothulmus region of the brain. It is fixed at birth.

99.9% of the people in the ex-gay program are people whose religious beliefs conflict with the scientific fact that sexual orientation is biological. They may also be people who can not take responsibility for living a responsible and healthy life as the gay people that they are.

Biological facts are facts - a person's beliefs or wishes notwithstanding.

I don't know about you - but for me - facts and reality and truth are paramount in my life.

That is sadly not the case for people in the ex-gay program.
They are at odds with the truth and facts about sexual orientation.

If someone in your life lies to you about some aspect about your life - get as far away from that person as possible.

Live responsibly and in a healthy way - which means safe sex, eating well, making SMART choices re: when and with whom you have sex - but DO NOT deny who you are. And DO NOT LET ANYONE ELSE deny who you are.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/01/2006 9:00 PM  

Kurt: Despite all the pressures that are around you on a daily basis, no one has a right to tell you what to believe or how to live. I urge you to rethink your dedication to the "ex-gay" world and its cruel ideology. It will be scary and frightening, but it is something worth doing. You can be free, my friend.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/02/2006 11:39 AM  

Matthew, i had the same thought as you--why is kurt always the first one to post his pro "ex-gay", pro bush bullshit. As i suspected, he is an "ex-gay" wannabe with an obsessive-compulsive need to read this website. Stop spinning your wheels kurt; you are what you are and always will be GAY! Seek help from a REAL therapist and not those "ex-gay" "christian counseling" quacks!!
Gary (NJ)
ps.."evangelical abuse" is redundant.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/02/2006 1:33 PM  

Wait a minute..."breaking of generational curses"? That sounds suspiciously like witchcraft to me. That's not very Christian...

Oh, wait. I forgot. These "evangelical" people aren't Christian at all.

--Johnny in Minneapolis
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 3/02/2006 2:14 PM  

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