Wayne Besen - Daily Commentary

Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Warren Throckmorton - Left

(Weekly Column)

Dr. Warren Throckmorton, the shamelessly self-promoting "ex-gay" therapist, has stepped up his holy war against gay people. This week, he organized a pack of fundamentalist quacks to file a formal written complaint with the American Counseling Association. Throckmorton's crew is upset because they believe the ACA is inhibiting their ability to destroy the mental health of gay and lesbian people in the name of religion. They also believe that they have the special right as fundamentalists to use bizarre techniques and ignore normal therapy guidelines.

What is so morally distasteful and ethically disgraceful about Throckmorton is that he is taking this measure without offering a shred of evidence that his shame-based therapy model works. What Chutzpah! How can he credibly complain to the ACA without offering multiple "success" stories by people other than those who get paid to say they have gone from gay to straight?

Indeed, the ACA should launch a full-scale investigation against the good doctor. He works at little Grove City College, a fundamentalist school in a rural Western Pennsylvania town of merely 8000 people. The truth is, you probably could not find 250 farmers, no less gay people in need of ex-gay therapy in this neck of the woods. To no ones surprise, this brain-twisting blowhard has yet to produce on-record accounts out of his large pool of supposed clients. Clearly, he is either exaggerating the number of clients or his therapy is a monumental failure.

With such a paltry and embarrassing record, why is Throckmorton attacking the ACA? The reason is simple: Throckmorton and his cohorts act more like ministers than mental health professionals. Instead of ethical counselors who just happen to be Christian, they are politically motivated fundamentalists who can't separate church and couch. This is the same type of backwards, "intelligent design" promoting crowd that wears lab coats, yet disdains science and stealthily tries to slip their oddball theories into the mainstream.

Predictably, the signers of the letter are disingenuously claiming religious discrimination. They don't seem to realize that their professional rejection stems from the objective reasoning that their theories are illegitimate garbage.

Most of these counselors still believe that a distant same-sex parent causes homosexuality. Their "cure" is making platonic friendships with same-sex friends and playing sports. Such nonsense might have seemed credible 35 years ago - when few gay people were out of the closet. In 2008, however, we now know that this simplistic cause and effect is false. Any counselor who suggests otherwise is incompetent, has an agenda or is too lazy to talk to real gay people.

Other counselors, such as Throckmorton, believe in what I call "Larry Craig Therapy." These practitioners actually promote the peculiar notion that one can effectively separate sexual identity from attraction. The idea that one can spend an entire lifetime in such obvious denial is untenable and a recipe for inner-turmoil.

Still, Throckmorton cruelly peddles the mental health mirage of the happy celibate gay person living according to his or her values. In ten years of going to ex-gay conferences, the people I have met who are living in this state of love-limbo are hopelessly despondent and constantly on the verge of tears. How is this good for mental health and why should the ACA acquiesce to this damaging pseudoscience?

These right wing therapists are central to the problem, not the solution. They do absolutely nothing to make clients heterosexual or reconcile faith and sexuality. All these therapists accomplish is enticing vulnerable clients to pay dearly for the identical shame and repression they previously received for free.

Conspicuously absent in the letter to the ACA are examples of how these "therapists" supposedly help their clients. They are coy about their reliance on controversial and unconventional methods. Ex-gay therapists or ministers routinely endorse exorcisms and tell clients that they may have demons in their bodies. They sometimes instruct clients to wear rubber bands on their wrists and snap them whenever they find a person physically attractive. Other times, "touch therapy" is employed, where the counselor caresses (sometimes abusively) a client sitting on his or her lap.

Finally, those who wrote the letter arrogantly suggested that they represent Christianity. They are but a few misguided sects of the religion - and ones that give the faith a bad name. These therapists would be infinitely more helpful if they would explain to suffering clients that many theologians disagree with their rigid worldview.

Attorneys from the right wing Alliance Defense Fund also sent a letter to the ACA, in an attempt to bully the organization. But, all the high-priced lobbying and lawyering in the world can't hide the growing army of ex-gay counseling victims. The ACA would do well to listen to these survivors and then throw the right wing letter in the trash - where it can be reunited with the outlandish theories and screwy techniques that constitute so-called "ex-gay" therapy.

44 Comments:

I'm so glad you noted that these people do not represent "Christianity" as they claim. I'm so tired of extremists claiming to speak for me. I'm a Christian, a Methodist, and attend a church that fully integrates gay people as children of God. I see no conflicts between my faith and my sexuality and people who claim that I need to miraculously become heterosexual certainly do not represent me or Christianity as I understand it.
posted by Blogger Sam, at 2/20/2008 10:48 AM  

One assumes that if their 'religion' promoted female circumcision, Witch burning, or suicide bombing murders, they should legally be allowed to do that also. When will the 'real' mental health community start legal action to put these quacks out of business. "Ex-gay" survivors who have been psychologically damaged and financially ripped off, need to start suing; even a class action law suit. I would love to see this topic done on Boston Legal. It would be a real public service to expose them in the mass media.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 10:52 AM  

The most ironic thing about all this is the fact that those who need "change counseling" the most are religious fanatics themselves who were tragically brainwashed into this nonsense as young children. Naturally, no adult in their right mind could accept these silly religious fables as actual fact. Some of those who were indoctrinated as children are often nasty, condescending, huffy, angry and frustrated. Some of them seem unable to live in a pluralistic society without attacking others.

Some fail miserably when it comes to exhibiting simple manners, caring very little about respecting people's differences, always presuming to lecture others, apparently all according to the ramblings of a silly book which is devoid of the intellectual and scientific discoveries of the past 4,000 years. They have, throughout history, always tried to change reality (and us) so that it matches their beliefs, but reality will always serve as a powerful, unrelenting reminder that what they believe is simply not real.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 11:11 AM  

"All these therapists accomplish is enticing vulnerable clients to pay dearly for the identical shame and repression they previously received for free."

Wayne-- this is perhaps one of the most brilliant statements I have read of yours. Beautiful. It sums up the whole disgusting mess.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 11:13 AM  

Chris-- reality is what happens while you're busy making plans
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 11:37 AM  

Does his therapy try to eliminate gayness in his clients? From what I have read about him he does not try to stop people from being gay.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 3:21 PM  

Please see the video, "I Do Exist." Throckmorton has long promoted the idea that people can go from gay to straight.

Recently, he has tried to focus on making gay people celibate. This, in my view, causes long-term psychological damage to people. Throckmorton confuses values with shame and cares more about his faith than his clients.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 4:49 PM  

I'm not sure what's worse, telling gay people they should become straight, or telling them they should become celibate.

I mean, at least if you're an "ex-gay" you can be married and have a family - sure your marriage would be a sham, but you'd still have the company of a partner and your kids. But celibate people have to suffer all alone.

I suppose one or the other is worse depending on the person.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/20/2008 8:04 PM  

For what its worth, why doesn't Throckmorton provide evidence that you can go from straight to gay?
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 8:10 AM  

Throckmorton is a scumbag, that is why he provides no evidence. he just does not give a fuck about his clients and will screw anyone in the name of his loving jesus. What a self-righteous piece of shit. He should lose his license - whoops - I forgot the pig doesn't have one.

Jacob in S.F.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 9:22 AM  

Now Jacob, dont insult pigs, they're cute and very smart--the exact opposite of Schlockmorton!
Laugh...
Red V
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 10:18 AM  

Throckmorton is a really ugly man - in all respects. He looks like a 70's reject. No wonder he is in the closet - no one in their right mind would bed him. he promotes celibacy so he is not the only dude not getting laid. Throckmorton is psychically as gross as he is spiritually disfigured and mentally close-minded.

Paul
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 1:23 PM  

Paul - you inadvertently left out "repulsive"
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 1:24 PM  

My goodness, these comments are the accumulation of thoughtless immature people. Please, if you are going to criticize a person for their work then do so. Insulting their looks, etc... is nothing more than childish. You are making gay people look bad. And those who are fighting for gay rights need support not this kind of behavior.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/21/2008 2:02 PM  

Hey - no more insults about Mr. Throckmorton....there is much to criticize about his work without resorting to churlish personal attacks.

Thanks
posted by Blogger Wayne Besen, at 2/21/2008 2:40 PM  

Hasn't Doc Throck also suggested suicide to the gays who couldn't complete his "ex-gay" program?

All you have to do is read anything he's posted online, to figure out that the guy is a nutball. I'll go a step above that, and say he's Satanic and rapes the bible.
posted by Blogger S., at 2/21/2008 3:09 PM  

I have consulted with a therapist trained by Dr. Throckmorton and I can tell you that he helped save my marriage and my sanity. I have not changed my orientation dramatically but contrary to what you write, Throckmorton's approach does not work with people to change orientation. You are doing much more harm than good with your campaign.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/23/2008 10:43 AM  

How convenient - another Throckmorton "client" that is anonymous. Amazing how these people never come forward. This leads me to believe Throckmorton is the one writing.

As far as it helping your "marriage" - if you are married to a woman and need to see a doctor because you want to sleep with men - well, than you are a real selfish SOB who did not give a damn about the woman you married. (assuming you are a real person).

Buddy, your life is a fake and so is your marriage. What a sad, self-centered loser you truly are. You have screwed your family because of your faith. If you had any balls, you'd leave your wife and allow her to find a real straight man that actually wanted her.

Sir, you are a woman hating scumbag.

Bart
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/23/2008 1:05 PM  

I'm a former Throckmorton client (straight). Wayne already knows my story about Throck, so I won't repeat it here. I think what gay people have to realize though is just what calling someone 'mentally ill' means in evangelical culture. Theoretically, if homosexuality really was a mental illness, it shouldn't be a sin in evangelical theology. After all, you have no control over whether you are mentally ill or not. However, many evangelicals not only believe that homosexuality is a sin, but that also if it is a mental illness, that that mental illness is also a sin. In fact, whatever Throckmorton claims, that argument is implicit in his pathologizing of homosexuality as mental illness. In much of evangelical culture, especially the Reformed groups from which Grove City College sprang, mental illnesses of all kinds are seen as sin. I have OCD and was told repeatedly that it was not biology, but my sin nature, that made me keep washing hands, wiping things, etc. Therefore, Throckmorton is not only making a homophobic move, but by extension brings up the possibility that actual mental illnesses, if found contrary to evangelicalism, will also be pathologized.

John Weaver
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 2/28/2008 11:40 AM  

I was approached Dr Throckmorton to assist him with publicising some of hisresearch. At the time I was blissfully unaware of what he represented.
As the author of the Marriedgay.org site, I didn't know that I was being set up by either him or one of his colleagues to be publicly abused for something that I had written in confidence to someone called Steve Florida who turned out to be one of the Doctor's clan. That abuse in public came from someone who frankly did not seem to be totally stable. I regret now having helped the Doctor to publicise a questionnaire that he was running which was not a million miles away in content to one that I have been running on my site for some time. It is based on the Klein Sexual Orientation Grid.
It seems very unChristian of someone to ask for help and then, subsequently to abuse them, whether planned or not. I have only subsequently learnt the nature of the beast.
I have over the last 10 years collected a wealth of information on men and women who are gay and in marriage - many of them are desperately seeking help and guidance to see them through their plight. To raise their hopes by suggesting that they can become "ex-gay" is unkind and putting off the "evil hour". In my view, being totally honest with ourselves is the approach that is most likely to find some sort of solution.

Michael www.marriedgay.org
posted by Blogger Michael, at 4/02/2008 4:30 PM  

I have been asked to withdraw that I made on this site and this I do unconditionally with apologies to Warren Throckmorton.

I was badly verbally abused by one of his correspondents on his site. I am now satisfied that Warren was not in any way behind what was said about me and apologise to him for having implied that he might have been involved.

He has now confirmed to me that the person who abused me has been banned from his site and I am now satisfied that he was not one of his colleagues.

I also withdraw any comment that I may have made on his research.

Michael at Marriedgay.org
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