Monday, August 11, 2008
Melissa Fryrear, the clownish so-called ex-lesbian from Focus on the Family who cakes on make-up, pretends to have crushes on red headed men (although we've never had a report of an actual date) and admits that she is "not the sharpest knife in the drawer," has changed the term "ex-gay" to "post gay" in Focus on the Family's latest newsletter.
In the letter, she describes the process of becoming post-gay:
"Thus, for any feeling, thought, belief, identity, behavior or action that is not characteristic of and resembling of the Person of Jesus Christ, God's intention is to change it so that it is." (sounds like brainwashing)
Of course, Fryrear admits that her ministry has the potential to cause great damage, saying, "It is a process - often a very long, difficult and painful process."
Actually, it is a destructive dead end. The people who throw their money at charlatans like Fryrear do go through the painful process described, only to find that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. This exacerbates the pain and can lead to depression and self-destructive behavior.
I'm not sure why loneliness, pain and depression qualify as "post-gay."
44 Comments:
Post-gay? Please.........more about denial than anything else. Are there any straights who have "converted" to a gay orientation, would they describe their lives now as "post-straight"? Absurd to think people actually believe they can change their orientation. They may opt for a celibate life but they still remain gay. Where are the hundreds of thousands of converted gays, how many are married with children, how many are single and how many are dating and having an active sex life with the opposite sex? Where is the evidence? Why aren't they coming forward in droves to make the claim they are straight? Notice the very few who do almost always refer to religious beliefs, scriptural quotes....all brainwashing if you ask me, damaged goods for sure. One of the biggest fraudulent scams ever. They should all be shut down. Its about making money and exploiting vulnerable people, nothing more.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 12:56 PM
Now introducing "Post-Gay": new name, same bad taste!
posted by S., at
8/11/2008 1:21 PM
"Post-gay" huh? Seems to imply the same thing, at least superficially.
I wonder what marketing research led them to this decision and what they hope to gain by it.
Actually wasn't there some crappy 90's postmodern gay writer who used the term in some hypothetical scenario? I vaguely remember something like that.
Maybe that's the case, and the ex-gays are trying to coopt a term made up by a real gay person, that way they can claim we are the ones who came up with it?
Wouldn't put it past them.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 2:46 PM
And P.S.:
"Thus, for any feeling, thought, belief, identity, behavior or action that is not characteristic of and resembling of the Person of Jesus Christ, God's intention is to change it so that it is."
Oh so does that mean you are all divorcing your husbands and wives, since Jesus never married? Are you disowning your kids too? I don't believe Jesus had any of those. Kinda defeats the whole focus on "the family", doesn't it?
Good luck imitating Jesus, you whackos. I hope you all try to walk on water and drown.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 2:49 PM
The gods obviously have a sense of humor when they destined her to have the name FRYREAR. Maybe it was originally Frere but the neocon nutjobs at FoF made her change it because it was French; kinda like Freedom Fries.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 3:04 PM
Can we call that post-pommes frites? Laugh!
posted by , at
8/11/2008 3:14 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, Jesus never married, surrounded by twelve men and kept company with a hooker....makes you wonder. Maybe he was gay and maybe Mary Magdelene was the first fag-hag, ha-ha! I wonder if he ever got it on with her if not any of his twelve guys?
posted by , at
8/11/2008 4:26 PM
Mary Magdalene was never a hooker. That tale was started by some Medieval Pope, undoubtedly for some misogynistic political purposes.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 5:29 PM
Hmmm Robert, guess yo don't read the bible. Besides insulting a bunch of chrisitans and their faith - you made a real comment about yourself - ignorant.
Aaaannnnnd as far as the brainwashing goes - there are a lot of christians who believe exactly as she does and they are nice people. Just because you don't like religion or more defined christianity does not mean that you understand it. It just so happens that Fryrear happens to be amongst those whom you dislike and so you would attack anything she says - even if it changing into a more christlike person is what most christians worldwide will say.
Sorry but when you guys pick on the religion of so many gay people then someone has to say something.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 9:53 PM
I think the name post gay comes from the growing discontent that many gays and ex gays have around the word ex gay - since it doesn't really describe the experience. Got to give her kudos for trying out something new - no one else has stepped forward from that group to change that word.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 9:55 PM
Again to the writer who talks about divorce because Jesus was not married - please read the bible. Jesus supports marriage, as well as Paul etc... And divorce is not acceptable.
You'd do better to remark on the high rate of divorce within the church a-instead making yourself out to be clueless about the religion you are attacking.
posted by , at
8/11/2008 9:57 PM
I think the name post gay comes from the growing discontent that many gays and ex gays have around the word ex gay - since it doesn't really describe the experience.
I'm pretty sure that there's a word that already describes the experience. That word is "gay".
If people really find that word so offensive, they can try "same-sex attracted" on for size instead I guess.
And yes, "post-gay" is a term that's already taken:
post-gay: Term used to describe same-gender-loving individuals that do not identify or associate with mainstream gay culture.
posted by Z, at
8/12/2008 4:14 AM
Anonymous, so I'm ignorant huh? Lighten up, moron, you have NO sense of humor. Put that book of fairy tales down and face reality. Who gives a flying f--k about offending christian cultists? YOU and your kind have been offending us for millenia.
posted by , at
8/12/2008 8:43 AM
"It just so happens that Fryrear happens to be amongst those whom you dislike and so you would attack anything she says"
There's a reason for that - everything that comes out of her mouth is a swipe at openly gay people.
I've yet to hear anything from Fryrear that isn't (a) her obligatory snotty remarks about gay people, to earn her pay (b) complete nuttery that makes her look like the damned fool she is.
posted by S., at
8/12/2008 12:17 PM
Robert,
You are insulting millions of gay christians.
It's about being real - dude. You need to grow up.
posted by , at
8/12/2008 1:36 PM
Robert,
Is that what you're going to say to all the gay christians out there - lighten' up?
What if the conservative christians insulted you (and they do) and then they told you to lighten' up?
Double standard. Doesn't sound right in any person's book.
posted by , at
8/12/2008 3:03 PM
There are no gay christians. Just ask Theo/AJ. Nor are there catholic chrisians nor mormon nor Jehova Witness, nor seventh day, nor eastern orthodox, christians.
posted by , at
8/12/2008 4:24 PM
Anon - you too have insulted millions of gay christians.
posted by , at
8/12/2008 11:05 PM
If you look at her testamony at exodus you will see the following:
When my partner gave me my first Bible I discovered there were a number of scriptures that addressed homosexuality: Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 23:18, Romans 1:27 and 1 Corinthians 6:9. This is when the wrestling ensued.
This is such bull crap. Does she really expect us to believe she never heard of these passages until she came across them while reading the bible from cover to cover? You would have to be living under a rock or be suffering from downs syndrome to not have heard these passages before. God did not come to her, she went looking for god because she spent ten years morally conflicted about a sexual identity that she could never accept. btw, she looks about as lady like as a truck driver in stelletos.
posted by , at
8/13/2008 12:49 AM
satire dear, satire
posted by , at
8/13/2008 1:14 AM
You guys!! Just because some of you would look better in a dress doesn't mean you should pick on someone for the way they look? Does it? Or do you like those nasty old white perverted homophobic men and the things they say about you?
Busted - the shoe doesn't seem to fit you to well, either.
posted by , at
8/13/2008 2:14 AM
If ever i meet this woman, i hope she reminds me to SLAP HER ACROSS HER MISGUIDED FACE. She is a disgrace for lying to herself and others. And she is too damn old to be not held accountable for her devious actions on behalf of the simpletons who are manipulating her.
posted by , at
8/14/2008 9:51 AM
Ewe,
Granted she may say things you don't agree with but your suggestions are as despicable(sp?) as the ones for which you accuse her.
Honestly, you are an embarrassment to a whole group of people. But I do support your right to your opinion - except that your writing could be taken as hate speech that is inciting violence against an individual for belonging to a certain segment or group of people based on their religion.
The rules apply to you,too.
posted by , at
8/17/2008 1:53 AM
no anonymous: my comments are defensive. I reserve the right to be defensive on gay friendly blogs in particular because i must not be that way when dealing with straight people on principle. It is up to gay people to make ignorant people be defensive about explaining their own hateful rhetoric. You are wrong about me. Wake up. I may be rude but i do not promote hate speech. You should direct your dismissiveness with as much energy to the real enemy pushing damaging propaganda. I can assure you it is not me.
posted by , at
8/17/2008 10:56 PM
Ewe,
LOL!!!!! Okayee dokeey pokeey lokeey.
You cn convince yourself of just about anything!! LOL!!!
You see, I've been at this a long time. And I know the arguments that the fundies used. You're the same brand of person and it doesn't matter if you are a fundie or gay - people ike you are the same everywhere.
posted by , at
8/18/2008 1:48 PM
Well i see you are unable to comeback with any intelligent comeback to my comments. See ya later alligator.
posted by , at
8/19/2008 10:10 AM
Ewe,
That could not understand seaks volumes about you. I am sorry your are caught in a world of hate.
You just brand it differently than the others.
Suggesting physcal violence against another human being is called suggesting violence against another human being.
Is that simple enough for you?
posted by , at
8/20/2008 2:08 PM
spare me your politically correct nonsense and go fill out a domestic violence report at your local police station. Listen Mary Louise, I am gonna tell you what the cops will. "Where is the actual violence? There isn't any queen, it is sentiment expressed in words." A judge can make it real simple for you too. You are the simpleton who connects your own A to B scenario without thinking outside the box. And yes, feel free to consider me hateful. I could care less (anonymous) You really think your pathetic buildup of your own guilt works on other people don't you? It doesn't and you aint.
posted by , at
8/21/2008 2:42 PM
Ewe,
Read the Hate Crimes Bill. Become informed and understnd what rights gays are fighting for.
I'll tell you what the D.A., the Jury and the Judge will say.
Inciting violence means inciting violence.
If someone were to make the same statments you made about Melissa to a gay person, there would be evidenc enough to charge.
Grow up, read the documents that gays are requesting.
You're a proven nitwit. I am ashamed for you and gays everywhere who must admit that you are gay.
posted by , at
8/21/2008 6:32 PM
Listen you nitwit ewe -
do you think this is right
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/21/student.killed.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
bullying is bullying, hate is hate, you are not defending yourself - you are acting like a bully.
posted by , at
8/21/2008 6:51 PM
You are all talk and your bull about what would happen in court is a fantasy in your mind. Go harass someone else. Secondly, i could care less whether you approve of gay people or not.
posted by , at
8/23/2008 1:16 PM
Ewe - did you miss the point? I could care less about you. I care very much about gay people, their rights and protections.
You might want to reconsider how your statments are the same kinds of statments that fundies made in the past. And one of the reasons for Hate Crime Bills.
I'm saying - I don't like you and I don't like your ignorance of gay and human rights.
You are mean. Being gay does not automatically make you right.
posted by , at
8/23/2008 1:38 PM
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