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Wednesday, August 06, 2008


Despite raising an estimated hundreds of millions of dollars for the Christian right, televangelist Jerry Falwell died poor, a new book claims. That's right, he bashed fags and died in rags. Serves him right.

The pugnacious preacher apparently lost most of his fortune to a doomed investment, a $20 million "Christian community," according to investigative author Dirk Smillie in his new book "Falwell, Inc." I'm sure Falwell accepted God's will with grace and good spirits.

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"I'm sure Falwell accepted God's will with grace and good spirits."

He'd better! It's not like he can enjoy all that worldly $$$ in hell, where he belongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfN7i3tOguI

And I doubt the man died penniless - look at him! He's as big as a house! The only exception is maybe he was eating Ramen noodles in bulk.
posted by Blogger S., at 8/06/2008 3:44 PM  

He was a very evil man.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 3:53 PM  

I am happy to report that i do not feel his evil aura around anymore. What a gift to humanity. He died as he lived. Completely worhtless.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 3:55 PM  

I don't buy it--Falwell was many things, but I don't believe he was stupid about cash for a minute. You can bet he stashed millions away in an offshore account.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 4:16 PM  

Yes I was just thinking that...I don't feel his spirit of division and prejudice anymore either, and that is a good thing. Not to speak ill of the dead, but I think that most people are glad he's gone. Life on Planet Earth has improved since he expired.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 4:17 PM  

It's nice to know that occasionally these bastards get their karma back right away. I'm still waiting for the high crimes bush crowd to get what's coming to them, but they'll probably die like hitler--quickly and easily leaving a sea of misery and destruction behind them.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 4:34 PM  

Yes, I am glad he no longer walks the earth. I will never forget him talking about how gays and women's liberation caused the attacks on the Twin Towers. Outrageous and perverted thinking. I don't care if he publicly apologized to gays or ex gays or whomever - the fact is - he never re-canted his belief on the matter and took that to his grave.

And I seriously doubt he left his family without more than enough to live comfortably - next to the poor and the needy in this country - see sins of sodom.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/06/2008 8:50 PM  

Sounds like a potentially very interesting book.
posted by Blogger Joey, at 8/07/2008 4:04 AM  

Good riddance to white trash, along with Helms. The world is a better place without them. Maybe Hagee, Robertson, Mabon and Wildmon will be next, lets hope.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 6:26 AM  

We need someone like Falwell to expose the lastest public perversity in San Francisco, where nude men engaged in multiple instances of public sex on a municipal street while police officers nearby made no attempt to enforce public indecency regulations. The officers were probably afraid of being raped!

This behavior was documented in photographs of an event called "Up Your Alley," which is sponsored by the same group that organizes the city's fall "gay"-fest, the Folsom Street Fair. Their sexual deviancy is unlawful on the physical level, and it's unlawful on the metaphysical level.

The photos do not fit in with the slick, national "gay" marketing plan. But the pathetic and debased spectacle is as much an offspring of the "GLBT" movement as the current quest for homosexual "marriage." Homosexual activists radically redefine and corrupt an ancient institution created by God to order relations between man and woman as the basis for family life. Perverse events like "Up Your Alley" mock any notion of right and wrong – as the reckless pursuit of anything-goes "tolerance" leads governmental authorities like Gavin Newsome to enable and promote evil, turning freedom into sexual anarchy while causing a breakdown in law and order.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 9:11 AM  

Oh anon, you crack me up with your fixation on all things homosex.

As many bloggers have already noted, this 'Up Your Alley' event was not an official GLBT event - it was a FETISH event. And if I recall reading it, the event was open to all adults, gay and straight.

You sound like Peter LaBarbera to me, if not one of his followers. And no, Peter doesn't need to replace Falwell. At least Falwell wasn't running around with a camera, chasing after nude men.
posted by Blogger S., at 8/07/2008 9:23 AM  

Yeah, we know Wayne and others won't report on that! LOL!!

What I find hilarious is Wayne and other Democratic Party hacks almost complete ignoring of the John Edwards fiasco. His reaction to the reports on Edwards' "love child" scandal is reminiscent of the Soviet press. Edwards' name has simply been completely whitewashed since an initial report.

I bet that if we tried to look up coverage of the Democratic primaries in Nexis news archives, Edwards' name will have disappeared from the debates. By next week, Edwards won't have been John Kerry's running mate in 2004.

Wayne and his cohorts defend the total blackout on the Edwards' love child story by making claims that don't survive the laugh test. For example, he and others claim that since Edwards is no longer an elected official and he is not running for office, coverage shouldn't be expected.

HMM...what sort of "elected official" was Ted Haggard again? He was the Christian minister relatively few outside of his own parish had ever heard of until he was caught in a gay sex scandal last year. Then he suddenly became the pope of the Protestants. And yet, despite the fact that Haggard was not an "elected official," Wayne and others gave that story a lot of coverage.

And by the way, what sort of "elected officials" were Mel Gibson, Rush Limbaugh and Bill Bennett? Such hypocrisy - on BOTH sides!!! (I know some will try and paint me as a "right-winger," which I'm NOT!).

It's probably too obvious to point out that Wayne would be taking a wall-to-wall coverage approach to the love child story if it were a story about Mitt Romney's love child or Larry Craig's love child. But with a Democrat sex scandal, Wayne is in a nail-biting competition with his fellow Democratic hacks for the award for "Best Suppressed Story." It's been reported that Edwards' mistress is receiving $15,000 a month in hush money. No word on how much the Wayne is getting for not talking about it.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 9:25 AM  

Actually, Pinhead, I reported on the Edwards love child story quite early.

http://www.waynebesen.com/2008/07/edwards-caught-with-mistress-and-love.html
posted by Blogger Wayne Besen, at 8/07/2008 10:11 AM  

Anon, Edwards is not an enemy of the GLBT community, so why would we go after him? We're not denying that it happened, it's just a non-issue for us. The point about exposing the sex scandals of the "christian" right, family values crowd is their *hypocrisy*!
When they condemn us and try to legislate against us, and then go out and cheat on their wives with men OR women, they deserve to be exposed and severly criticized.
Gary (NJ)
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 10:12 AM  

Dear anonymous - it is impossible for me to censor comments, as I am not a government entity. However, as the owner of this site, I can pick and choose who gets to comment.

As this is my site, I get to call you a Pinhead, not the other way around. If you don't like it, start your own website that no one will read.

Thanks!
posted by Blogger Wayne Besen, at 8/07/2008 12:10 PM  

Hey Anon--if I'm not mistaken, the Dems scandals have been largely heterosexual in nature, unlike all the recent homosexual ones in the "Straight Christian" GOP.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 12:22 PM  

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posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 12:40 PM  

Gary, exactly right! These right wingers NEVER berate their own offenders but castigate a Dem with impunity. Its beyond a double standard, hypocrisy and bigotry come to mind.

What about their David Vittier who cheated on his wife with a female escort and received a standing ovation by his party. Their hypocrisy is mind-blowing! What about Larry Craig, Henry Hyde, Newt Gingrich, Vito Fossella, and all the other GOPers. The same ones who vote against marriage equality while threatening their own marriages by doing something that is so anti-marriage and espousing their religious beliefs and the sanctity of marriage, please!
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 1:52 PM  

Anon who talks about the "up your Ally"

Whoever you are - let it be known that this ex gay , christian wants you to look at your own depravity before you start pointing at others'.

The problem with people who like you believe in your mission and calling is that it makes people like me out to be a joke. Why can't you leave well enough alone and work on your own issues before God.

You are no better than the gluttonous Falwell and his ilk. Talking, just talking about other people's sins and not taking the time out to work on your own??? C'mn you must have something in there that you are ashamed of???

I stay around this blog to put people like you into perspective. Not all homosexuals are the perverts you speak of, nor are they all out having sex in the ally. There are many many (gay) people who contribute their wealth of time, money and talent to society.

Man or woman up to the idea that you have things within yourself that need attention.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/07/2008 10:23 PM  

Wayne and Gary and Robert and others are justifying the wall-to-wall coverage of the smallest malfeasance by any Christian or "Christian" or conservative or "conservative," with or without independent verification, with the lame excuse of "hypocrisy."

Well hey, why didn't you say so! If all it takes to get the Edwards story Wayne's redar is a little hypocrisy, have I got a story for you!!

Here's the story:

1) The entire schmaltzy Edwards campaign consisted of this self-professed moralist telling us how much he loved the poor and loved his cancer-stricken wife.

2) The following was Edwards' response to CBS News anchor Katie Couric's question about whether voters should care if a presidential candidate is faithful to his spouse:

"Of course. I mean, for a lot of Americans - including the family that I grew up with, I mean, it's fundamental to how you judge people and human character - whether you keep your word, whether you keep what is your ultimate word, which is that you love your spouse, and you'll stay with them. ... I think the most important qualities in a president in today's world are trustworthiness - sincerity, honesty, strength of leadership. And - and certainly that goes to a part of that."

There you have it Gary and Robert! Go to town, Wayne!!
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 10:22 AM  

We also need more people like Falwell to expose Americans to the nonsense and depravity coming out of California. Only a year after banning all negative messages about homosexuality in public schools throughout the state, the California Legislature now is ordering school children to celebrate "gay" lifestyle choices.

If signed into law, the bill would mean an official day commemorating homosexuality, bisexuality, and transsexuality in California government schools. It will positively portray to children homosexual experimentation, homosexual "marriages," sex-change operations, and anything else that's "in the closey" (exactly where it should be).

Hopefully moves such as these in California will spur parents into action. Hopefully it will further motivate California parents to remove their children from the immoral government school system.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 10:23 AM  

Why does that one comment concerning the Edwards affair keep moving and appearing/disappearing? It actually makes a great point.

The scandal over former-Senator John Edwards' fathering of a love child is rapidly being surpassed by a greater travesty - not one single major media organization in the U.S is covering the story.

Edwards, who's sought the presidency twice, actually was nominated for vice president once, and made millions as a trial lawyer by holding health maintenance organizations accountable for their transgressions, is manifestly newsworthy and clearly a public figure. Hell, Edwards is a Democratic celebrity.

Yet no major network or national daily paper is doing anything with the story. Wayne, who's normally all over these type of scandals, only had one post dealing with initial reports.

Sure, it's distasteful. That's one of the reasons it's news.

I wonder why Wayne and others don't want to touch this sordid tale about a politician's love life? Former Rep. Gary Condit should have been so lucky. Larry Craig and Ted Hagard can only gaze in wonder at the dearth of coverage.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 10:25 AM  

San Francisco is regulary rated as one of the top tourist destinations in the world. It has some of the most covited real estate in America. In comparison you could but the entire christianist state of Alabama for what a two bedroom condo in S.F. would fetch. Not to mention the real estate and economy in the liberal city of L.A. Whatever California is doing or teaching in their schools, they are doing it right.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 1:32 PM  

If a christian does not want their children learning about sexuality in public schools, then said christian ought to not take tax discounts from the government - since it goes against what others believe.

Really, as a conservative christian, it is not realistic to expect others to pay for my life and beliefs. Nor should I pay for theirs.

So here's the solution. Take your kids out of public school and put them in private schools. Ask that your church be supported by it's parishoners instead of the gorvernment. Then you will have a legal argument to stand on. Until such time, practice your own faith and don't ask others to do the same because it saves you a buck.

Conservative christians have not acted as christians to those who are "unlike" them. This stranger at the gate is now yelling. Could it have been said any more clearly?
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 3:00 PM  

"Could it have been said any more clearly?"

um, yea it could have. I'm lost. I don't know what you are talking about. Actually I do, but your reasoning is poor. We are on the same team, but you could have thought this out better.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 4:02 PM  

Anon,

I don't think that because I'm ex gay and christian that it puts us on the same team.

I think you don't like my ideas because it will cost you more money. That is the price of having your beliefs.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/08/2008 10:38 PM  

And thankfully an appeals court in California has ruled that state law does permit homeschooling "as a species of private school education." The long-awaited case resolves many of the questions that had developed in homeschooling circles across the nation when the same court earlier found that parents had no such rights - statutorily or constitutionally - in the People's Republic of California. This recent decision, while not perfect, is a great victory for home-school freedom.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/09/2008 10:42 AM  

And precisely no one (save maybe Robert, who still probably thinks it's all a "right-wing" conspiracy) is shocked as former-Democratic Senator and Presidential candidate John Edwards finally admits the affair that the MSM and Democratic bloggers couldn't bring themselves to report back when it actually mattered.

Clearly Edwards lied about love, which is no crime. Or, not-love, I suppose. Whatever, won't people stop harassing this poor man? He's not an important public figure like Joel Osteen's wife, Larry Craig, Ted Hagard, etc. Edwards gave up being a major Democratic Party candidate for President MONTHS ago! You'd think a man whose wife was dying would get some respect for his privacy.

1. John Edwards admits an affair with Rielle Hunter - CHECK

2. John Edwards confesses to fathering Rielle Hunter's child.

3. John Edwards adopts Rielle Hunter's child.

Now, what was that about the reliability of the National Enquirer versus the mainstream media again? It seems the evidence suggests we may need to rethink our dismissal of all those bizarre reports about bat children and aliens.

And I wonder how long after the election it will take for all the true stories about Barack Obama to find their way out to the public...assuming Hillary Clinton doesn't find a way to put them out there first.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/09/2008 10:51 AM  

Anon,

Do you know what was being quedtioned?? They were checking to see if parents could provide the same education that someone with a degree in teaching could provide. It was not about creationism vs evolution.

And I have to say, even though I would teach my children in private school (they would recieve education at home) since I lack faith that anyone could provide my child with the critical skills needed to make it through.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/09/2008 1:32 PM  

If democrats were smart they would dredge up McCains first wife. The one he tossed out like a used cum rag after he got back from Viet Nam.

before his second wife he was in a series of fornacatins.

to the other anon,

you are not ex-gay. you love dick and dream of it every night. you can't stand poonanny. I could seduce you in a moment (I am hot, not to brag). How do I know? I have had sex with several ex-gays who were staying in a local hotel in Seattle.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/09/2008 3:07 PM  

Anon at 3:07

You're so gross. And having sex with some ex gays is not having sex with all ex gays.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/09/2008 11:59 PM  

I am sorry that you find sex gross. You should have thought of that when you were sucking dick, which you have regular fantasies about. You have no fantasies about other women, as any real straight guy would, because, well, YOU ARE GAY, but obtaining. You are not "ex gay" there is no such thing; just gay men who obtain, and this is a critical point here. You are a frustrated little child/man who was too ugly and unattractive to get the type of guy you lusted after, rather then settling for a relationship with a compromise of your ideal. You still want dick and are not "ex gay" because you have no real lasting attraction to pussy. Now that you are all growdied up you should not be so sensitive to graphic talk of sex. Perhaps you need to read a column by the great sex advice writher, Dan Savage. And if want genteel language, go to church. You are talking to an ex gay GI here.

lol
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/2008 1:20 AM  

prior post should read

abstain and abstaining not obtain, damn spell check. lol

_blush_
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/2008 1:24 AM  

Hmmmm. I don't find sex gross. I find you are gross about the way you comment.

Try some more shock writer. You are nothing more than a right winged voter dressed in a liberal suit. You still want to force people to accept your ideas and are willing to fabricate about others whom you know mothing about.

Sounds like a right winger to me!
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/2008 3:02 PM  

Actually, by the over reactive way you respond - I imagine you are still repressed about your own sexuality and still have trouble accepting your are gay. People who are over compensating - generally over exaggerrate (sp??)themselves. So ex gay GI, soldier up and accept yourself. I accept you as a gay men. So should you.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/2008 3:11 PM  

so true. I reminded of an interview with the prostitute who jimmy swiegart used. She claimed that he made her get on all fours and would comment on the fact that he liked her fat pussy. This from a guy who preached that he couldn't be more discusted with "unatural" acts of sex.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/10/2008 3:21 PM  

if anyone is having trouble accepting they are gay, it is you. You are so non-accepting that you have suppressed your sexuality right back into the closet. you are sexually interested in men and not women. If you are interested in women sexually it is because you are bisexual, not because you preyed the attraction into existance. The reason you are here is because you can't accept youself and are having doubts about your dishonest path in life. You call yourself ex-gay without giving even the slightest hint of the life you are living. so tell us all about your woman craving lifestyle, you smarmey little troll. How is that for over reaction. what a dishonest fraudlent person you are. To claim that you preyed away the gay is a lie. you should be ashamed of yourself. stop your internal repression, it is ruining your life. you are here for a reason, and the reason is clear. you like men.
posted by Anonymous Anonymous, at 8/11/2008 6:20 PM  

As Hitchens stated, "If you gave Falwell an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox"
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